Quintus Smyrnaeus · The Fall of Troy (Posthomerica) Τὰ μεθ' Ὅμηρον

Quintus Smyrnaeus, The Fall of Troy (Posthomerica) 2.1–93: Polydamas and Paris quarrel

Priam urges the Trojans to defend the walls until Memnon comes. Polydamas doubts that waiting will save them and counsels against endless war, and Paris reviles him as a coward. Polydamas answers him to his face, and Paris has no reply.

Lines 2.1–93 · 1044 words · click a number to copy its link
1αὐτὰρ ἐπεὶ κορυφὰς ὀρέων ὑπέρ ἠχηέντων λαμπρὸν ὑπὲρ φάος ἦλθεν ἀτειρέος ἠελίοιο, οἱ μὲν ἄρʼ ἐν κλισίῃσιν Ἀχαιῶν ἄβριμοι υἷες γήθεον ἀκαμάτῳ μέγʼ ἐπευχόμενοι Ἀχιλῆι. 5Τρῶες δʼ αὖ μύροντο κατὰ πτόλιν· ἀμφὶ δὲ πύργους ἐζόμενοι σκοπίαζον, ἐπεὶ φόβος ἔλλαβε πάντας, μὴ δή που μέγα τεῖχος ὑπερθόρῃ ὄβριμος ἀνήρ αὐτούς τε κτείνῃ κατά τε πρήσῃ πυρὶ πάντα. τοῖσι δʼ ἄρʼ ἀχνυμένοισι γέρων μετέειπε Θυμοίτης· 10ὦ φίλοι, οὐκέτʼ ἔγωγε περὶ φρεσὶν οἶδα νοῆσαι, ὅππως ἔσσεται ἄλκαρ ἀνιηροῦ πολέμοιο Ἕκτορος ἀγχεμάχοιο δεδουπότος, ὃς μέγα Τρώων κάρτος ἔην τὸ πάροιθε· καὶ οὐδʼ ὅ γε Κῆρας ἄλυξεν, ἀλλʼ ἐδάμη παλάμῃσιν Ἀχιλλέος, ᾧ περ ὀΐω 15καὶ θεὸν ἀντιάσαντα μάχῃ ἔνι δῃωθῆναι· οἵην τήνδʼ ἐδάμασσεν ἀνὰ κλόνον, ἥνπερ οἱ ἄλλοι Ἀργεῖοι φοβέοντο, δαΐφρονα Πενθεσίλειαν· καὶ γὰρ ἔην ἔκπαγλος· ἔγωγέ μιν ὡς ἐνόησα, ὠισάμην μακάρων τίνʼ ἀπʼ οὐρανοῦ ἐνθάδʼ ἱκέσθαι 20ἡμῖν χάρμα φέρουσαν· ὃ δʼ οὐκ ἄρʼ ἐτήτυμον ἦεν. ἀλλʼ ἄγε φραζώμεσθα, τί λώιον ἄμμι γένηται, ἢ ἔτι που στυγεροῖσι μαχώμεθα δυσμενέεσσιν, ἢ ἤδη φεύγωμεν ἀπʼ ἄστεος ὀλλυμένοιο· οὐ γὰρ ἔτʼ Ἀργείοισι δυνησόμεθʼ ἀντιφερίζειν 25μαρναμένου κατὰ δῆρ ιν ἀμειλίκτου Ἀχιλῆος. ὣς ἄρʼ ἔφη· τὸν δʼ υἱὸς ἀμείβετο Λαομέδοντος· ὦ φίλος ἠδʼ ἄλλοι Τρῶες σθεναροί τʼ ἐπίκουροι, μή νύ τι δειμαίνοντες ἑῆς χαζώμεθα πάτρης, μηδʼ ἔτι δυσμενέεσσι μαχώμεθα τῆλε πόληος, 30ἀλλά που ἐκ πύργων καὶ τείχεος, εἰσόκεν ἔλθῃ Μέμνων ὀβριμόθυμος ἄγων ἀπερείσια φῦλα λαῶν, οἳ ναίουσι μελάμβροτον Αἰθιόπειαν. ἤδη γάρ ῥα καὶ αὐτὸν ὀΐομαι ἀγχόθι γαίης ἔμμεναι ἡμετέρης· ἐπεὶ ἦ νύ οἱ οὔτι νέον γε 35ἀγγελίην προέηκα μέγʼ ἀχνύμενος περί θυμῷ·

When o’er the crests of the far-echoing hills
The splendour of the tireless-racing sun
Poured o’er the land, still in their tents rejoiced
Achaea’s stalwart sons, and still acclaimed
Achilles the resistless. But in Troy
Still mourned her people, still from all her towers
Seaward they strained their gaze; for one great fear
Gripped all their hearts—to see that terrible man
At one bound overleap their high-built wall,
Then smite with the sword all people therewithin,
And burn with fire fanes, palaces, and homes.
And old Thymoetes spake to the anguished ones:
“Friends, I have lost hope: mine heart seeth not
Or help, or bulwark from the storm of war,
Now that the aweless Hector, who was once
Troy’s mighty champion, is in dust laid low.
Not all his might availed to escape the Fates,
But overborne he was by Achilles’ hands,
The hands that would, I verily deem, bear down
A God, if he defied him to the fight,
Even as he overthrew this warrior-queen
Penthesileia battle-revelling,
From whom all other Argives shrank in fear.
Ah, she was marvellous! When at the first
I looked on her, meseemed a Blessed One
From heaven had come down hitherward to bring
Light to our darkness—ah, vain hope, vain dream!
Go to, let us take counsel, what to do
Were best for us. Or shall we still maintain
A hopeless fight against these ruthless foes,
Or shall we straightway flee a city doomed?
Ay, doomed!—for never more may we withstand
Argives in fighting field, when in the front
Of battle pitiless Achilles storms.”

Then spake Laomedon’s son, the ancient king:
“Nay, friend, and all ye other sons of Troy,
And ye our strong war-helpers, flinch we not
Faint-hearted from defence of fatherland!
Yet let us go not forth the city-gates
To battle with yon foe. Nay, from our towers
And from our ramparts let us make defence,
Till our new champion come, the stormy heart
Of Memnon. Lo, he cometh, leading on
Hosts numberless, Aethiopia’s swarthy sons.
By this, I trow, he is nigh unto our gates;
For long ago, in sore distress of soul,
I sent him urgent summons. Yea, and he
Promised me, gladly promised me, to come
To Troy, and make all end of all our woes.
And now, I trust, he is nigh. Let us endure
A little longer then; for better far
It is like brave men in the fight to die
Than flee, and live in shame mid alien folk.”

36αὐτὰρ ὅ γʼ ἀσπασίως μοι ὑπέσχετο πάντα τελέσσαι ἐλθὼν ἐς Τροίην· καί μιν σχεδὸν ἔλπομαι εἶναι. ἀλλʼ ἄγε τλῆτʼ ἔτι βαιόν, ἐπεὶ πολὺ λώιόν ἐστι θαρσαλέως ἀπολέσθαι ἀνὰ κλόνον, ἠὲ φυγόντας 40ζώειν ἀλλοδαποῖσι παρʼ ἀνδράσιν αἴσχἐ ἔχοντας. ἦ ῥʼ ὁ γέρων· ἀλλʼ οὔτι σαόφρονι Πουλυδάμαντι ἥνδανεν εἰσέτι δῆρις, ἐΰφρονα δʼ ἔκφατο μῦθον· εἰ μὲν δὴ Μέμνων τοι ἀριφραδέως κατένευσεν ἡμέων αἰνὸν ὄλεθρον ἀπωσέμεν, οὔτι μεγαίρω 45μίμνειν ἀνέρα δῖον ἀνὰ πτόλιν· ἀλλʼ ἄρα θυμῷ δείδω, μὴ σὺν ἑοῖσι κιὼν ἑτάροισι δαμείη κεῖνος ἀνήρ, πολλοῖς δὲ καὶ ἄλλοις πῆμα γένηται ἡμετέροις· δεινὸν γὰρ ἐπὶ σθένος ὄρνυτʼ Ἀχαιῶν. ἀλλʼ ἄγε, μηδὲ πόληος ἑῆς ἀπὸ τῆλε φυγόντες 50αἴσχεα πολλὰ φέρωμεν ἀναλκείῃ ὑπὸ λυγρῇ ἀλλοδαπὴν περόωντες ἐπὶ χθόνα, μηδʼ ἔτι πάτρῃ μίμνοντες κτεινώμεθʼ ὑπʼ Ἀργείων ὀρυμαγδοῦ, ἀλλʼ ἤδη Δαναοῖσι, καὶ εἰ βραδύ, λώιον εἴη εἰσέτι κυδαλίμην Ἑλένην καὶ κτήματʼ ἐκείνης, 55ἠμὲν ὅσα Σπάρτηθεν ἀνήγαγεν ἠδὲ καὶ ἄλλα, διττάκι τόσσα φέροντας ὑπὲρ πόλιός τε καὶ αὐτῶν ἐκδόμεν, ἕως οὐ κτῆσιν ἀνάρσια φῦλα δέδασται ἡμετέρην, οὐδʼ ἄστυ κατήνυκε πῦρ ἀΐδηλον. νῦν δʼ ἄγʼ ἐμοὶ πείθεσθε περὶ φρεσίν· οὐ γὰρ ὁΐω 60ἄλλον ἀμείνονα μῆτιν ἐνὶ Τρώεσσι φράσασθαι· εἴθʼ ὄφελον καὶ πρόσθεν ἐμῆς ἐπάκουσεν ἐφετμῆς Ἕκτωρ, ὁππότε μιν κατερήτυον ἔνδοθι πάτρης. ὣς φάτο Πουλυδάμαντος ἐῢ σθένος· ἀμφὶ δὲ Τρῶες ᾔνεον εἰσαΐοντες ἐνὶ φρεσίν, οὐδʼ ἀναφανδὸν 65μῦθον ἔφαν· πάντες γὰρ ἑὸν τρομέοντες ἄνακτα ἅζοντʼ ἠδʼ Ἑλένην, κείνης ἕνεκʼ ὀλλύμενοί περ. τὸν δὲ καὶ ἐσθλὸν ἐόντα Πάρις μέγα νείκεσεν ἄντην· Πουλυδάμα, σὺ μὲν ἐσσὶ φυγοπτόλεμος καὶ ἄναλκις, οὐδὲ σοὶ ἐν στέρνοισι πέλει μενεδήιον ἦτορ, 70ἀλλὰ δέος καὶ φύζα· σὺ δʼ εὔχεαι εἶναι ἄριστος ἐν βουλῇ· πάντων δὲ χερείονα μήδεα οἶδας. ἀλλʼ ἄγε δὴ σὺ μὲν αὐτὸς ἀπόσχεο δηιοτῆτος, μίμνε δʼ ἐνὶ μεγάροισι καθήμενος· αὐτὰρ οἱ ἄλλοι ἀμφʼ ἐμὲ θωρήξονται ἀνὰ πτόλιν, εἴσοκε μῆχος 75εὕρωμεν θυμῆρες ἀνηλεγέος πολέμοιο·

So spake the old king; but Polydamas,
The prudent-hearted, thought not good to war
Thus endlessly, and spake his patriot rede:
“If Memnon have beyond all shadow of doubt
Pledged him to thrust dire ruin far from us,
Then do I gainsay not that we await
The coming of that godlike man within
Our walls—yet, ah, mine heart misgives me, lest,
Though he with all his warriors come, he come
But to his death, and unto thousands more,
Our people, nought but misery come thereof;
For terribly against us leaps the storm
Of the Achaeans’ might. But now, go to,
Let us not flee afar from this our Troy
To wander to some alien land, and there,
In the exile’s pitiful helplessness, endure
All flouts and outrage; nor in our own land
Abide we till the storm of Argive war
O’erwhelm us. Nay, even now, late though it be,
Better it were for us to render back
Unto the Danaans Helen and her wealth,
Even all that glory of women brought with her
From Sparta, and add other treasure—yea,
Repay it twofold, so to save our Troy
And our own souls, while yet the spoiler’s hand
Is laid not on our substance, and while yet
Troy hath not sunk in gulfs of ravening flame.
I pray you, take to heart my counsel! None
Shall, well I wot, be given to Trojan men
Better than this. Ah, would that long ago
Hector had hearkened to my pleading, when
I fain had kept him in the ancient home!”

So spake Polydamas the noble and strong,
And all the listening Trojans in their hearts
Approved; yet none dared utter openly
The word, for all with trembling held in awe
Their prince and Helen, though for her sole sake
Daily they died. But on that noble man
Turned Paris, and reviled him to his face:
“Thou dastard battle-blencher Polydamas!
Not in thy craven bosom beats a heart
That bides the fight, but only fear and panic.
Yet dost thou vaunt thee—quotha!—still our best
In counsel!—no man’s soul is base as thine!
Go to, thyself shrink shivering from the strife!
Cower, coward, in thine halls! But all the rest,
We men, will still go armour-girt, until
We wrest from this our truceless war a peace
That shall not shame us! ‘Tis with travail and toil
Of strenuous war that brave men win renown;
But flight?—weak women choose it, and young babes!
Thy spirit is like to theirs. No whit I trust
Thee in the day of battle—thee, the man
Who maketh faint the hearts of all the host!”

76οὐ γὰρ νόσφι πόνοιο καὶ ἀργαλέου πολέμοιο ἀνθρώποις μέγα κῦδος ἀέξεται ἠδὲ καὶ ἔργον· φύζα δὲ νηπιάχοισι μάλʼ εὔαδεν ἠδὲ γυναιξί· κείνῃς θυμὸν ἔοικας· ἐγὼ δέ τοι οὔτι πέποιθα 80μαρναμένῳ· πάντων γὰρ ἀμαλδύνεις θρασὺ κάρτος. ἦ μέγα νεικείων· ὁ δὲ χωόμενος φάτο μῦθον Πουλυδάμας· οὐ γάρ οἱ ἐναντίον ἅζετʼ ἀῧσαι κεῖνος, ἐπεὶ στυγερὸς καὶ ἀτάσθαλος ἠδʼ ἀεσίφρων, ὃς φίλα μὲν σαίνῃσιν ἐνωπαδόν, ἄλλα δὲ θυμῷ 85πορφύρει καὶ κρύβδα τὸν οὐ παρεόντα χαλέπτῃ· τῷ ῥα καὶ ἀμφαδίῃ μέγα νείκεσε δῖον ἄνακτα· ὦ μοι ἐπιχθονίων πάντων ὀλοώτατε φωτῶν, σὸν θράσος ἤγαγε νῶιν ὀϊζύα, σὸς νόος ἔτλη δῆριν ἀπειρεσίην καὶ τλήσεται, εἰσόκε πάτρην 90σὺν λαοῖς σφετέροισι δαϊζομένην ἐσίδηαι· ἀλλʼ ἐμὲ μὴ τοιόνδε λάβοι θράσος, ἀμφὶ δὲ τάρβος ἀσφαλὲς αἰὲν ἔχοιμι, σόον δέ μοι οἶκον ὀφέλλοι. ὣς ἄρʼ ἔφη. ὁ δʼ ἄρʼ οὔτι προσέννεπε Πουλυδάμαντα·

So fiercely he reviled: Polydamas
Wrathfully answered; for he shrank not, he,
From answering to his face. A caitiff hound,
A reptile fool, is he who fawns on men
Before their faces, while his heart is black
With malice, and, when they be gone, his tongue
Backbites them. Openly Polydamas
Flung back upon the prince his taunt and scoff:
“O thou of living men most mischievous!
Thy valour—quotha!—brings us misery!
Thine heart endures, and will endure, that strife
Should have no limit, save in utter ruin
Of fatherland and people for thy sake!
Ne’er may such wantwit valour craze my soul!
Be mine to cherish wise discretion aye,
A warder that shall keep mine house in peace.”

Indignantly he spake, and Paris found
No word to answer him, for conscience woke
Remembrance of all woes he had brought on Troy,
And should bring; for his passion-fevered heart
Would rather hail quick death than severance
From Helen the divinely fair, although
For her sake was it that the sons of Troy
Even then were gazing from their towers to see
The Argives and Achilles drawing nigh.

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English translation by A. S. Way (1913). Original text: Arnold Zimmermann (ed.), Quinti Smyrnaei Posthomericorum libri XIV, Leipzig: Teubner, 1891 (Greek text as digitised by Perseus).

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