Euripides · Trojan Women Τρῳάδες

Euripides, Trojan Women 686–739: Second episode: Talthybius announces the death sentence on Astyanax

Hecuba says that she has never set foot on a ship, and sees a Greek herald coming again. Talthybius, who says that he is unwilling, tells Andromache that the Greeks have decided that her son must die. He says that it has been decided that the boy is to be thrown from the battlements of Troy, and tells her to bear it bravely and not to curse the Greeks, or his body will be left unburied.

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Hecuba

686αὐτὴ μὲν οὔπω ναὸς εἰσέβην σκάφος, γραφῇ δʼ ἰδοῦσα καὶ κλύουσʼ ἐπίσταμαι. ναύταις γὰρ ἢν μὲν μέτριος ᾖ χειμὼν φέρειν, προθυμίαν ἔχουσι σωθῆναι πόνων, 690ὁ μὲν παρʼ οἴαχʼ, ὁ δʼ ἐπὶ λαίφεσιν βεβώς, ὁ δʼ ἄντλον εἴργων ναός· ἢν δʼ ὑπερβάλῃ πολὺς ταραχθεὶς πόντος, ἐνδόντες τύχῃ παρεῖσαν αὑτοὺς κυμάτων δρομήμασιν. οὕτω δὲ κἀγὼ πόλλʼ ἔχουσα πήματα 695ἄφθογγός εἰμι καὶ παρεῖσʼ ἐῶ στόμα· νικᾷ γὰρ οὑκ θεῶν με δύστηνος κλύδων. ἀλλʼ, ὦ φίλη παῖ, τὰς μὲν Ἕκτορος τύχας ἔασον· οὐ μὴ δάκρυά νιν σώσῃ τὰ σά· τίμα δὲ τὸν παρόντα δεσπότην σέθεν, 700φίλον διδοῦσα δέλεαρ ἀνδρὶ σῶν τρόπων. κἂν δρᾷς τάδʼ, ἐς τὸ κοινὸν εὐφρανεῖς φίλους καὶ παῖδα τόνδε παιδὸς ἐκθρέψειας ἂν Τροίᾳ μέγιστον ὠφέλημʼ, ἵνʼ — εἴ ποτε — ἐκ σοῦ γενόμενοι παῖδες Ἴλιον πάλιν 705κατοικίσειαν, καὶ πόλις γένοιτʼ ἔτι. ἀλλʼ ἐκ λόγου γὰρ ἄλλος ἐκβαίνει λόγος, τίνʼ αὖ δέδορκα τόνδʼ Ἀχαιϊκὸν λάτριν στείχοντα καινῶν ἄγγελον βουλευμάτων;

I never yet have set foot on a ship’s deck, though I have seen such things in pictures and know of them from hearsay. Now sailors, if there comes a storm of moderate force, are all eagerness to save themselves by toil; one stands at the tiller, another sets himself to work the sheets, a third meanwhile is baling out the ship; but if tempestuous waves arise to overwhelm them, they yield to fortune and commit themselves to the driving billows. Even so I, by reason of my countless troubles, am speechless and forbear to say a word; for this surge of misery from the gods is too strong for me. Cease, my darling child, to speak of Hector’s fate; no tears of yours can save him; honor your present master, offering your sweet nature as the bait to win him. If you do this, you will cheer your friends as well as yourself and you shalt rear my Hector’s child to lend stout aid to Ilium, that so your children in the aftertime may build her up again, and our city yet be established. But our talk must take a different turn; who is this Achaean servant I see coming here again, sent to tell us of some new design?

Ταλθύβιος 709Φρυγῶν ἀρίστου πρίν ποθʼ Ἕκτορος δάμαρ, 710μή με στυγήσῃς· οὐχ ἑκὼν γὰρ ἀγγελῶ. Δαναῶν δὲ κοινὰ Πελοπιδῶν τʼ ἀγγέλματα […] Ἀνδρομάχη τί δʼ ἔστιν; ὥς μοι φροιμίων ἄρχῃ κακῶν. Ταλθύβιος ἔδοξε τόνδε παῖδα […] πῶς εἴπω λόγον; Ἀνδρομάχη μῶν οὐ τὸν αὐτὸν δεσπότην ἡμῖν ἔχειν; Ταλθύβιος 715οὐδεὶς Ἀχαιῶν τοῦδε δεσπόσει ποτέ. Ἀνδρομάχη ἀλλʼ ἐνθάδʼ αὐτοῦ λείψανον Φρυγῶν λιπεῖν; Ταλθύβιος οὐκ οἶδʼ ὅπως σοι ῥᾳδίως εἴπω κακά. Ἀνδρομάχη ἐπῄνεσʼ αἰδῶ, πλὴν ἐὰν λέγῃς καλά. Ταλθύβιος κτενοῦσι σὸν παῖδʼ, ὡς πύθῃ κακὸν μέγα. Ἀνδρομάχη 720οἴμοι, γάμων τόδʼ ὡς κλύω μεῖζον κακόν. Ταλθύβιος νικᾷ δʼ Ὀδυσσεὺς ἐν Πανέλλησιν λέγων […] Ἀνδρομάχη αἰαῖ μάλʼ· οὐ γὰρ μέτρια πάσχομεν κακά. Ταλθύβιος λέξας ἀρίστου παῖδα μὴ τρέφειν πατρὸς […] Ἀνδρομάχη τοιαῦτα νικήσειε τῶν αὑτοῦ πέρι. Ταλθύβιος 725ῥῖψαι δὲ πύργων δεῖν σφε Τρωικῶν ἄπο. ἀλλʼ ὣς γενέσθω, καὶ σοφωτέρα φανῇ· μήτʼ ἀντέχου τοῦδʼ, εὐγενῶς δʼ ἄλγει κακοῖς, μήτε σθένουσα μηδὲν ἰσχύειν δόκει. ἔχεις γὰρ ἀλκὴν οὐδαμῇ. σκοπεῖν δὲ χρή· 730πόλις τʼ ὄλωλε καὶ πόσις, κρατῇ δὲ σύ, ἡμεῖς δὲ πρὸς γυναῖκα μάρνασθαι μίαν οἷοί τε. τούτων οὕνεκʼ οὐ μάχης ἐρᾶν οὐδʼ αἰσχρὸν οὐδὲν οὐδʼ ἐπίφθονόν σε δρᾶν, οὐδʼ αὖ σʼ Ἀχαιοῖς βούλομαι ῥίπτειν ἀράς. 735εἰ γάρ τι λέξεις ὧν χολώσεται στρατός, οὔτʼ ἂν ταφείη παῖς ὅδʼ οὔτʼ οἴκτου τύχοι. σιγῶσα δʼ εὖ τε τὰς τύχας κεκτημένη τὸν τοῦδε νεκρὸν οὐκ ἄθαπτον ἂν λίποις αὐτή τʼ Ἀχαιῶν πρευμενεστέρων τύχοις.

Talthybius You that once were the wife of Hector, bravest of the Phrygians, do not hate me, for I am not a willing messenger. The Danaids and sons of Pelops both command—

Andromache What is it? your prelude bodes evil news.

Talthybius It is decreed your son is—how can I tell my news?

Andromache Surely not to have a different master from me?

Talthybius None of all Achaea’s chiefs shall ever lord it over him.

Andromache Is it their will to leave him here, a remnant of Phrygia’s race?

Talthybius I know no words to break the sorrow lightly to you.

Andromache I thank you for your consideration, unless indeed you have good news to tell.

Talthybius They mean to slay your son; there is my hateful message to you.

Andromache Oh me! this is worse tidings than my forced marriage.

Talthybius So spoke Odysseus to the assembled Hellenes, and his word prevails.

Andromache Oh, once again alas! there is no measure in the woes I bear.

Talthybius He said they should not rear so brave a father’s son.

Andromache May such counsels prevail about children of his!

Talthybius He must be thrown from Troy’s battlements. Let it be so, and you will show more wisdom; do not cling to him, but bear your sorrows with heroic heart, nor in your weakness think that you are strong. For nowhere do you have any help; consider this you must; your husband and your city are no more, so you are in our power, and I alone am match enough for one woman; therefore I would not see you bent on strife, or any course to bring you shame or hate, nor would I hear you rashly curse the Achaeans. For if you say anything to anger the army, this child will find no burial nor pity either. But if you hold your peace and with composure take your fate, you will not leave his corpse unburied, and you yourself will find more favor with the Achaeans.

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English translation by Edward P. Coleridge (1891). Original text: Greek text: Gilbert Murray (ed.), Euripidis Fabulae, Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1913, as digitised by Perseus. English: Edward P. Coleridge, The Plays of Euripides, London: George Bell and Sons, first published 1891 (Bohn's Classical Library; the Perseus header records a later printing).

Greek text and translation from the Perseus Digital Library, Tufts University, CC BY-SA 4.0 (Perseus Digital Library); translation public domain. Introductions, summaries and notes © GreekMythology.com.