Euripides · Phoenician Women Φοίνισσαι

Euripides, Phoenician Women 499–587: Second episode: Eteocles refuses; Jocasta pleads for equality

Eteocles says that he would do anything to keep tyranny, the greatest of the gods, and will not yield. Jocasta pleads with him to honor Equality instead of Ambition. She warns both sons that war will bring ruin to Thebes and shame to Polyneices.

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Ἐτεοκλῆς 499εἰ πᾶσι ταὐτὸν καλὸν ἔφυ σοφόν θʼ ἅμα, 500οὐκ ἦν ἂν ἀμφίλεκτος ἀνθρώποις ἔρις· νῦν δʼ οὔθʼ ὅμοιον οὐδὲν οὔτʼ ἴσον βροτοῖς, πλὴν ὀνόμασαι· τὸ δʼ ἔργον οὐκ ἔστιν τόδε. ἐγὼ γὰρ οὐδέν, μῆτερ, ἀποκρύψας ἐρῶ· ἄστρων ἂν ἔλθοιμʼ ἡλίου πρὸς ἀντολὰς 505καὶ γῆς ἔνερθεν, δυνατὸς ὢν δρᾶσαι τάδε, τὴν θεῶν μεγίστην ὥστʼ ἔχειν Τυραννίδα. τοῦτʼ οὖν τὸ χρηστόν, μῆτερ, οὐχὶ βούλομαι ἄλλῳ παρεῖναι μᾶλλον ἢ σῴζειν ἐμοί· ἀνανδρία γάρ, τὸ πλέον ὅστις ἀπολέσας 510τοὔλασσον ἔλαβε. πρὸς δὲ τοῖσδʼ αἰσχύνομαι, ἐλθόντα σὺν ὅπλοις τόνδε καὶ πορθοῦντα γῆν τυχεῖν ἃ χρῄζει· ταῖς γὰρ ἂν Θήβαις τόδε γένοιτʼ ὄνειδος, εἰ Μυκηναίου δορὸς φόβῳ παρείην σκῆπτρα τἀμὰ τῷδʼ ἔχειν. 515χρῆν δʼ αὐτὸν οὐχ ὅπλοισι τὰς διαλλαγάς, μῆτερ, ποιεῖσθαι· πᾶν γὰρ ἐξαιρεῖ λόγος ὃ καὶ σίδηρος πολεμίων δράσειεν ἄν. ἀλλʼ, εἰ μὲν ἄλλως τήνδε γῆν οἰκεῖν θέλει, ἔξεστʼ· ἐκεῖνο δʼ οὐχ ἑκὼν μεθήσομαι. 520ἄρχειν παρόν μοι, τῷδε δουλεύσω ποτέ; πρὸς ταῦτʼ ἴτω μὲν πῦρ, ἴτω δὲ φάσγανα, ζεύγνυσθε δʼ ἵππους, πεδία πίμπλαθʼ ἁρμάτων, ὡς οὐ παρήσω τῷδʼ ἐμὴν τυραννίδα. εἴπερ γὰρ ἀδικεῖν χρή, τυραννίδος πέρι 525κάλλιστον ἀδικεῖν, τἄλλα δʼ εὐσεβεῖν χρεών. Χορός οὐκ εὖ λέγειν χρὴ μὴ ʼπὶ τοῖς ἔργοις καλοῖς· οὐ γὰρ καλὸν τοῦτʼ, ἀλλὰ τῇ δίκῃ πικρόν. Ἰοκάστη ὦ τέκνον, οὐχ ἅπαντα τῷ γήρᾳ κακά, Ἐτεόκλεες, πρόσεστιν· ἀλλʼ ἡμπειρία 530ἔχει τι λέξαι τῶν νέων σοφώτερον. τί τῆς κακίστης δαιμόνων ἐφίεσαι Φιλοτιμίας, παῖ; μὴ σύ γʼ· ἄδικος ἡ θεός· πολλοὺς δʼ ἐς οἴκους καὶ πόλεις εὐδαίμονας ἐσῆλθε κἀξῆλθʼ ἐπʼ ὀλέθρῳ τῶν χρωμένων· 535ἐφʼ ᾗ σὺ μαίνῃ. κεῖνο κάλλιον, τέκνον, Ἰσότητα τιμᾶν, ἣ φίλους ἀεὶ φίλοις πόλεις τε πόλεσι συμμάχους τε συμμάχοις συνδεῖ· τὸ γὰρ ἴσον μόνιμον ἀνθρώποις ἔφυ, τῷ πλέονι δʼ αἰεὶ πολέμιον καθίσταται 540τοὔλασσον ἐχθρᾶς θʼ ἡμέρας κατάρχεται. καὶ γὰρ μέτρʼ ἀνθρώποισι καὶ μέρη σταθμῶν Ἰσότης ἔταξε κἀριθμὸν διώρισε, νυκτός τʼ ἀφεγγὲς βλέφαρον ἡλίου τε φῶς ἴσον βαδίζει τὸν ἐνιαύσιον κύκλον, 545κοὐδέτερον αὐτῶν φθόνον ἔχει νικώμενον. εἶθʼ ἥλιος μὲν νύξ τε δουλεύει βροτοῖς σὺ δʼ οὐκ ἀνέξῃ δωμάτων ἔχων ἴσον καὶ τῷδε νεῖμαι; κᾆτα ποῦ ʼστιν ἡ δίκη;

Eteocles If all were unanimous in their ideas of honor and wisdom, there would be no strife to make men disagree; but, as it is, fairness and equality have no existence in this world beyond the name; there is really no such thing. I will tell you this, mother, without any concealment: I would go to the rising of the stars and the sun, or beneath the earth, if I were able so to do, to win Tyranny, the greatest of the gods. Therefore, mother, I will not yield this blessing to another rather than keep it for myself; for it is cowardly to lose the greater and to win the less. Besides, I am ashamed to think that he should gain his object by coming with arms and ravaging the land; for this would be a disgrace to Thebes, if I should yield my scepter up to him for fear of Mycenaean might. He ought not to have attempted reconcilement by armed force, mother, for words accomplish everything that even the sword of an enemy might effect. Still, if on any other terms he cares to dwell here, he may; but that I shall never willingly let go. Shall I become his slave, when I can rule? Therefore come fire, come sword! Harness your horses, fill the plains with chariots, for I will not give up my tyranny to him. For if we must do wrong, to do so for tyranny is the fairest cause, but in all else piety should be our aim.

Chorus Leader One should not speak well on deeds that are not good; for that is not good, but bitter to justice.

Jocasta Eteocles, my child, it is not all evil that attends old age; but experience has something to say wiser than youth. Why, my son, do you so long for Ambition, that worst of deities? Oh, do not; the goddess is unjust; many are the homes and cities once prosperous that she has entered and left, to the ruin of her worshippers; and she is the one you are mad for. It is better, my son, to honor Equality, who always joins friend to friend, city to city, allies to allies; for Equality is naturally lasting among men; but the less is always in opposition to the greater, and begins the dawn of hatred. For it is Equality that has set up for man measures and divisions of weights, and has determined numbers; night’s sightless eye, and radiant sun proceed upon their yearly course on equal terms, and neither of them is envious when it has to yield. Though both sun and night are servants for mortals, you will not be content with your fair share of your heritage and give the same to him? Then where is justice?

Ἰοκάστη 549τί τὴν τυραννίδʼ, ἀδικίαν εὐδαίμονα, 550τιμᾷς ὑπέρφευ καὶ μέγʼ ἥγησαι τόδε; περιβλέπεσθαι τίμιον; κενὸν μὲν οὖν. ἢ πολλὰ μοχθεῖν πόλλʼ ἔχων ἐν δώμασι βούλῃ; τί δʼ ἔστι τὸ πλέον; ὄνομʼ ἔχει μόνον· ἐπεὶ τά γʼ ἀρκοῦνθʼ ἱκανὰ τοῖς γε σώφροσιν. 555οὔτοι τὰ χρήματʼ ἴδια κέκτηνται βροτοί, τὰ τῶν θεῶν δʼ ἔχοντες ἐπιμελούμεθα· ὅταν δὲ χρῄζωσʼ, αὔτʼ ἀφαιροῦνται πάλιν. ἄγʼ, ἤν σʼ ἔρωμαι δύο λόγω προθεῖσʼ ἅμα, 560πότερα τυραννεῖν ἢ πόλιν σῷσαι θέλεις, ἐρεῖς τυραννεῖν; ἢν δὲ νικήσῃ σʼ ὅδε; ὄψῃ δαμασθὲν ἄστυ Θηβαῖον τόδε, ὄψῃ δὲ πολλὰς αἰχμαλωτίδας κόρας 565βίᾳ πρὸς ἀνδρῶν πολεμίων πορθουμένας. ὀδυνηρὸς ἆρʼ ὁ πλοῦτος, ὃν ζητεῖς ἔχειν, γενήσεται Θήβαισι, φιλότιμος δὲ σύ. σοὶ μὲν τάδʼ αὐδῶ. σοὶ δέ, Πολύνεικες, λέγω· ἀμαθεῖς Ἄδραστος χάριτας ἔς σʼ ἀνήψατο, 570ἀσύνετα δʼ ἦλθες καὶ σὺ πορθήσων πόλιν. φέρʼ, ἢν ἕλῃς γῆν τήνδʼ — ὃ μὴ τύχοι ποτέ — πρὸς θεῶν, τρόπαια πῶς ἀναστήσεις Διί; πῶς δʼ αὖ κατάρξῃ θυμάτων, ἑλὼν πάτραν, καὶ σκῦλα γράψεις πῶς ἐπʼ Ἰνάχου ῥοαῖς; 575Θήβας πυρώσας τάσδε Πολυνείκης θεοῖς ἀσπίδας ἔθηκε; μήποτʼ, ὦ τέκνον, κλέος τοιόνδε σοι γένοιθʼ ὑφʼ Ἑλλήνων λαβεῖν. ἢν δʼ αὖ κρατηθῇς καὶ τὰ τοῦδʼ ὑπερδράμῃ, πῶς Ἄργος ἥξεις μυρίους λιπὼν νεκρούς; 580ἐρεῖ δὲ δή τις· ὦ κακὰ μνηστεύματα Ἄδραστε προσθείς, διὰ μιᾶς νύμφης γάμον ἀπωλόμεσθα. δύο κακὼ σπεύδεις, τέκνον, κείνων στέρεσθαι τῶνδέ τʼ ἐν μέσῳ πεσεῖν. μέθετον τὸ λίαν, μέθετον· ἀμαθία δυοῖν, 585ἐς ταὔθʼ ὅταν μόλητον, ἔχθιστον κακόν. Χορός ὦ θεοί, γένοισθε τῶνδʼ ἀπότροποι κακῶν καὶ ξύμβασίν τινʼ Οἰδίπου τέκνοις δότε.

Jocasta Why do you honor to excess tyranny, a prosperous injustice, why do you think so much of it? Admiring glances are to be prized? No, that is an empty pleasure. Or do you want to have many troubles from the many riches in your house? What advantage is it? The name only; for the wise find what suffices to be enough. Mortals indeed have no possessions of their own; we hold the management of the gods’ property; and when they will, they take it back again. Come, suppose I put before you two alternatives, and ask you whether you wish to rule or save your city? Will you say you wish to rule? Again, if this man conquers you you will see this city of Thebes conquered, and you will see many captured maidens brutally dishonored by men of the enemy. Then that wealth you seek to have will become grievous to Thebes; but still ambition fills you. That I say to you; and this to you, Polyneices; Adrastus has conferred a foolish favor on you; and you too have shown little sense in coming to lay your city waste. Suppose you conquer this land—may it not happen!—tell me, by the gods, how will you set up a trophy to Zeus? How will you begin the sacrifice after your country’s conquest or inscribe the spoils at the streams of Inachus: Polyneices after giving Thebes to the flames dedicated these shields to the gods? O my son, may you never win such fame from Hellas! If, on the other hand, you are beaten and your brother’s cause prevails, how will you return to Argos, leaving countless dead behind? Some one will be sure to say: Adrastus, you made an evil betrothal; we are ruined by the marriage of one bride. You are eager for two evils, my son, the loss of those there and ruin in the midst of your efforts here. Lay aside your violence, my sons, lay it aside; two men’s follies, once they meet, result in very deadly mischief.

Chorus Leader O gods, avert these troubles and reconcile the sons of Oedipus!

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English translation by Edward P. Coleridge (1891). Original text: Greek text: Gilbert Murray (ed.), Euripidis Fabulae, Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1913, as digitised by Perseus. English: Edward P. Coleridge, The Plays of Euripides, London: George Bell and Sons, first published 1891 (Bohn's Classical Library; the Perseus header records a later printing).

Greek text and translation from the Perseus Digital Library, Tufts University, CC BY-SA 4.0 (Perseus Digital Library); translation public domain. Introductions, summaries and notes © GreekMythology.com.