Aristophanes · The Clouds Νεφέλαι

Aristophanes, The Clouds 804–888a: Episode: Strepsiades takes Pheidippides to school

The Chorus tell Strepsiades to seize the chance that their favour has given him, and he turns his son Pheidippides out of the house and tells him that there is no Zeus, but a Vortex, and that the men of the school are fine fellows who never wash. Pheidippides thinks his father mad, and is shown the fowl and the fowless. Strepsiades then brings him to Socrates and asks him to teach the boy both the Better and the Worse Logic.

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CHORUS

804ἆρʼ αἰσθάνει πλεῖστα διʼ ἡμᾶς ἀγάθʼ αὐτίχʼ ἕξων 805μόνας θεῶν; ὡς ἕτοιμος ὅδʼ ἐστὶν ἅπαντα δρᾶν ὅσʼ ἂν κελεύῃς. 810σὺ δʼ ἀνδρὸς ἐκπεπληγμένου καὶ φανερῶς ἐπηρμένου

Dost thou not see how bounteous we our favours free Will shower on you, Since whatsoe’er your will prepare This dupe will do. But now that you have dazzled and elated so your man,

Χορός 811γνοὺς ἀπολάψεις ὅ τι πλεῖστον δύνασαι, ταχέως· φιλεῖ γάρ πως τὰ τοιαῦθʼ ἑτέρᾳ τρέπεσθαι. Στρεψιάδης οὔτοι μὰ τὴν Ὁμίχλην ἔτʼ ἐνταυθοῖ μενεῖς· 815ἀλλʼ ἔσθιʼ ἐλθὼν τοὺς Μεγακλέους κίονας. Φειδιππίδης ὦ δαιμόνιε, τί χρῆμα πάσχεις ὦ πάτερ; οὐκ εὖ φρονεῖς μὰ τὸν Δία τὸν Ὀλύμπιον. Στρεψιάδης ἰδού γʼ ἰδού, Δίʼ Ὀλύμπιον· τῆς μωρίας, τὸν Δία νομίζειν ὄντα τηλικουτονί. Φειδιππίδης 820τί δὲ τοῦτʼ ἐγέλασας ἐτεόν; Στρεψιάδης ἐνθυμούμενος ὅτι παιδάριον εἶ καὶ φρονεῖς ἀρχαιϊκά. ὅμως γε μὴν πρόσελθʼ, ἵνʼ εἰδῇς πλείονα, καί σοι φράσω τι πρᾶγμʼ ὃ μαθὼν ἀνὴρ ἔσει. ὅπως δὲ τοῦτο μὴ διδάξεις μηδένα. Φειδιππίδης 825ἰδού· τί ἔστιν; Στρεψιάδης ὤμοσας νυνὶ Δία. Φειδιππίδης ἔγωγʼ. Στρεψιάδης ὁρᾷς οὖν ὡς ἀγαθὸν τὸ μανθάνειν; οὐκ ἔστιν ὦ Φειδιππίδη Ζεύς. Φειδιππίδης ἀλλὰ τίς; Στρεψιάδης Δῖνος βασιλεύει τὸν Δίʼ ἐξεληλακώς. Φειδιππίδης αἰβοῖ τί ληρεῖς; Στρεψιάδης ἴσθι τοῦθʼ οὕτως ἔχον. Φειδιππίδης 830τίς φησι ταῦτα; Στρεψιάδης Σωκράτης ὁ Μήλιος καὶ Χαιρεφῶν, ὃς οἶδε τὰ ψυλλῶν ἴχνη. Φειδιππίδης σὺ δʼ ἐς τοσοῦτον τῶν μανιῶν ἐλήλυθας ὥστʼ ἀνδράσιν πείθει χολῶσιν; Στρεψιάδης εὐστόμει καὶ μηδὲν εἴπῃς φλαῦρον ἄνδρας δεξιοὺς

CHORUS Make haste and seize whate’er you please as quickly as you can, For cases such as these, my friend, are very prone to change and bend.

STREPSIADES Get out! you shan’t stop here: so help me Mist! Be off, and eat up Megacles’s columns.

PHEIDIPPIDES How now, my father? what’s i’ the wind to-day? You’re wandering; by Olympian Zeus, you are.

STREPSIADES Look there! Olympian Zeus! you blockhead you, Come to your age, and yet believe in Zeus!

PHEIDIPPIDES Why prithee, what’s the joke?

STREPSIADES ’Tis so preposterous When babes like you hold antiquated notions. But come and I’ll impart a thing or two, A wrinkle, making you a man indeed. But, mind: don’t whisper this to any one.

PHEIDIPPIDES Well, what’s the matter?

STREPSIADES Didn’t you swear by Zeus?

PHEIDIPPIDES I did.

STREPSIADES See now, how good a thing is learning. There is no Zeus, Pheidippides.

PHEIDIPPIDES Who then?

STREPSIADES Why Vortex reigns, and he has turned out Zeus,

PHEIDIPPIDES Oh me, what stuff.

STREPSIADES Be sure that this is so.

PHEIDIPPIDES Who says so, pray?

STREPSIADES The Melian—Socrates, And Chaerephon, who knows about the flea-tracks,

PHEIDIPPIDES And are you come to such a pitch of madness As to put faith in brain-struck men?

STREPSIADES O hush! And don’t blaspheme such very dexterous men

Στρεψιάδης 835καὶ νοῦν ἔχοντας· ὧν ὑπὸ τῆς φειδωλίας ἀπεκείρατʼ οὐδεὶς πώποτʼ οὐδʼ ἠλείψατο, οὐδʼ ἐς βαλανεῖον ἦλθε λουσόμενος· σὺ δὲ ὥσπερ τεθνεῶτος καταλόει μου τὸν βίον. ἀλλʼ ὡς τάχιστʼ ἐλθὼν ὑπὲρ ἐμοῦ μάνθανε. Φειδιππίδης 840τί δʼ ἂν παρʼ ἐκείνων καὶ μάθοι χρηστόν τις ἄν; Στρεψιάδης ἄληθες; ὅσαπερ ἔστʼ ἐν ἀνθρώποις σοφά· γνώσει δὲ σαυτὸν ὡς ἀμαθὴς εἶ καὶ παχύς. ἀλλʼ ἐπανάμεινόν μʼ ὀλίγον ἐνταυθοῖ χρόνον. Φειδιππίδης οἴμοι τί δράσω παραφρονοῦντος τοῦ πατρός; 845πότερον παρανοίας αὐτὸν εἰσαγαγὼν ἕλω, ἢ τοῖς σοροπηγοῖς τὴν μανίαν αὐτοῦ φράσω; Στρεψιάδης φέρʼ ἴδω, σὺ τοῦτον τί ὀνομάζεις; εἰπέ μοι. Φειδιππίδης ἀλεκτρυόνα. Στρεψιάδης καλῶς γε. ταυτηνὶ δὲ τί; Φειδιππίδης ἀλεκτρυόνʼ. Στρεψιάδης ἄμφω ταὐτό; καταγέλαστος εἶ. 850μή νυν τὸ λοιπόν, ἀλλὰ τήνδε μὲν καλεῖν ἀλεκτρύαιναν τουτονὶ δʼ ἀλέκτορα. Φειδιππίδης ἀλεκτρύαιναν; ταῦτʼ ἔμαθες τὰ δεξιὰ εἴσω παρελθὼν ἄρτι παρὰ τοὺς γηγενεῖς; Στρεψιάδης χἄτερά γε πόλλʼ· ἀλλʼ ὅ τι μάθοιμʼ ἑκάστοτε, 855ἐπελανθανόμην ἂν εὐθὺς ὑπὸ πλήθους ἐτῶν. Φειδιππίδης διὰ ταῦτα δὴ καὶ θοἰμάτιον ἀπώλεσας; Στρεψιάδης ἀλλʼ οὐκ ἀπολώλεκʼ, ἀλλὰ καταπεφρόντικα. Φειδιππίδης τὰς δʼ ἐμβάδας ποῖ τέτροφας ὦνόητε σύ; Στρεψιάδης ὥσπερ Περικλέης ἐς τὸ δέον ἀπώλεσα. 860ἀλλʼ ἴθι βάδιζʼ, ἴωμεν· εἶτα τῷ πατρὶ πιθόμενος ἐξάμαρτε· κἀγώ τοί ποτε,

STREPSIADES And sapient too: men of such frugal habits They never shave, nor use your precious ointment, Nor go to baths to clean themselves: but you Have taken me for a corpse and cleaned me out. Come, come, make haste, do go and learn for me.

PHEIDIPPIDES What can one learn from them that is worth knowing?

STREPSIADES Learn! why, whatever’s clever in the world: And you shall learn how gross and dense you are. But stop one moment: I’ll be back directly.

PHEIDIPPIDES O me! what must I do with my mad father? Shall I indict him for his lunacy, Or tell the undertakers of his symptoms?

STREPSIADES Now then! you see this, don’t you? what do you call it?

PHEIDIPPIDES That? why a fowl.

STREPSIADES Good! now then, what is this?

PHEIDIPPIDES That’s a fowl too.

STREPSIADES What both! Ridiculous! Never say that again, but mind you always Call this a fowless and the other a fowl.

PHEIDIPPIDES A fowless! These then are the mighty secrets You have picked up amongst those earth-born fellows.

STREPSIADES And lots besides: but everything I learn: I straight forget: I am so old and stupid.

PHEIDIPPIDES And this is what you have lost your mantle for?

STREPSIADES It’s very absent sometimes: ’tisn’t lost.

PHEIDIPPIDES And what have you done with your shoes, you dotard you?

STREPSIADES Like Pericles, all for the best, I’ve lost them. Come, come; go with me: humour me in this, And then do what you like. Ah! I remember

Στρεψιάδης 862οἶδʼ, ἑξέτει σοι τραυλίσαντι πιθόμενος, ὃν πρῶτον ὀβολὸν ἔλαβον ἡλιαστικόν, τούτου ʼπριάμην σοι Διασίοις ἁμαξίδα. Φειδιππίδης 865ἦ μὴν σὺ τούτοις τῷ χρόνῳ ποτʼ ἀχθέσει. Στρεψιάδης εὖ γʼ ὅτι ἐπείσθης. δεῦρο δεῦρʼ ὦ Σώκρατες, ἔξελθʼ· ἄγω γάρ σοι τὸν υἱὸν τουτονὶ ἄκοντʼ ἀναπείσας. Σωκράτης νηπύτιος γάρ ἐστʼ ἔτι, καὶ τῶν κρεμαθρῶν οὔπω τρίβων τῶν ἐνθάδε. Φειδιππίδης 870αὐτὸς τρίβων εἴης ἄν, εἰ κρέμαιό γε. Στρεψιάδης οὐκ ἐς κόρακας; καταρᾷ σὺ τῷ διδασκάλῳ; Σωκράτης ἰδοὺ κρέμαιʼ, ὡς ἠλίθιον ἐφθέγξατο καὶ τοῖσι χείλεσιν διερρυηκόσιν. πῶς ἂν μάθοι ποθʼ οὗτος ἀπόφυξιν δίκης 875ἢ κλῆσιν ἢ χαύνωσιν ἀναπειστηρίαν; καίτοι γε ταλάντου τοῦτʼ ἔμαθεν Ὑπέρβολος. Στρεψιάδης ἀμέλει δίδασκε· θυμόσοφός ἐστιν φύσει· εὐθύς γέ τοι παιδάριον ὄν τυννουτονὶ ἔπλαττεν ἔνδον οἰκίας ναῦς τʼ ἔγλυφεν, 880ἁμαξίδας τε σκυτίνας ἠργάζετο, κἀκ τῶν σιδίων βατράχους ἐποίει πῶς δοκεῖς. ὅπως δʼ ἐκείνω τὼ λόγω μαθήσεται, τὸν κρείττονʼ ὅστις ἐστὶ καὶ τὸν ἥττονα, ὃς τἄδικα λέγων ἀνατρέπει τὸν κρείττονα· 885ἐὰν δὲ μή, τὸν γοῦν ἄδικον πάσῃ τέχνῃ. Σωκράτης αὐτὸς μαθήσεται παρʼ αὐτοῖν τοῖν λόγοιν. ἐγὼ δʼ ἀπέσομαι. Στρεψιάδης τοῦτό νυν μέμνησʼ, ὅπως πρὸς πάντα τὰ δίκαιʼ ἀντιλέγειν δυνήσεται. Χορός […]

STREPSIADES How I to humour you, a coaxing baby, With the first obol which my judgeship fetched me Bought you a go-cart at the great Diasia.

PHEIDIPPIDES The time will come when you’ll repent of this.

STREPSIADES Good boy to obey me. Hallo! Socrates. Come here; come here; I’ve brought this son of mine, Trouble enough, I’ll warrant you.

SOCRATES Poor infant, Not yet aware of my suspension-wonders.

PHEIDIPPIDES You’d make a wondrous piece of ware, suspended.

STREPSIADES Hey! Hang the lad! Do you abuse the Master?

SOCRATES And look, “suthspended!” In what foolish fashion He mouthed the word with pouting lips agape. How can he learn evasion of a suit, Timely citation, damaging replies? Hyperbolus, though, learnt them for a talent.

STREPSIADES O never fear! he’s very sharp, by nature. For when he was a little chap, so high, He used to build small baby-houses, boats, Go-carts of leather, darling little frogs Carved from pomegranates, you can’t think how nice! So now, I prithee, teach him both your Logics, The Better, as you call it, and the Worse Which with the worse cause can defeat the Better; Or if not both, at all events the Worse.

SOCRATES Aye, with his own ears he shall hear them argue. I shan’t be there.

STREPSIADES But please remember this, Give him the knack of reasoning down all Justice.

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English translation by Benjamin Bickley Rogers (1924). Original text: Greek text: F. W. Hall and W. M. Geldart (eds.), Aristophanis Comoediae, Oxford Classical Texts, Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1906-1907, as digitised by Perseus. English: Benjamin Bickley Rogers, Aristophanes, vol. I, Loeb Classical Library, London: William Heinemann, and New York: G. P. Putnam's Sons, 1924.

Greek text and translation from the Perseus Digital Library, Tufts University, Greek: CC BY-SA 4.0 (Perseus Digital Library); translation public domain (Rogers). Introductions, summaries and notes © GreekMythology.com.