Aristophanes · Plutus Πλοῦτος

Aristophanes, Plutus 415–626: Agon: Chremylus and Poverty debate wealth

Poverty bursts in and threatens the two men for trying to drive her out of Hellas, and Blepsidemus tries to run until Chremylus stops him. Poverty agrees to argue the case, and Chremylus says that Wealth restored to sight will reward the good and shun the wicked. Poverty answers that without her nobody would work or practise a craft, and the quarrel runs through beds, beggars, the gods and the orators until Chremylus drives her away and prepares to take Wealth to the temple.

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Πενία 415ὦ θερμὸν ἔργον κἀνόσιον καὶ παράνομον τολμῶντε δρᾶν ἀνθρωπαρίω κακοδαίμονε— ποῖ ποῖ; τί φεύγετον; οὐ μενεῖτον; Βλεψίδημος Ἡράκλεις. Πενία ἐγὼ γὰρ ὑμᾶς ἐξολῶ κακοὺς κακῶς· τόλμημα γὰρ τολμᾶτον οὐκ ἀνασχετόν, 420ἀλλʼ οἷον οὐδεὶς ἄλλος οὐδεπώποτε οὔτε θεὸς οὔτʼ ἄνθρωπος· ὥστʼ ἀπολώλατον. Χρεμύλος σὺ δʼ εἶ τίς; ὠχρὰ μὲν γὰρ εἶναί μοι δοκεῖς. Βλεψίδημος ἴσως Ἐρινύς ἐστιν ἐκ τραγῳδίας· βλέπει γέ τοι μανικόν τι καὶ τραγῳδικόν. Χρεμύλος 425ἀλλʼ οὐκ ἔχει γὰρ δᾷδας. Βλεψίδημος οὐκοῦν κλαύσεται. Πενία ὄιεσθε δʼ εἶναι τίνα με; Χρεμύλος πανδοκεύτριαν ἢ λεκιθόπωλιν. οὐ γὰρ ἂν τοσουτονὶ ἀνέκραγες ἡμῖν οὐδὲν ἠδικημένη. Πενία ἄληθες; οὐ γὰρ δεινότατα δεδράκατον 430ζητοῦντες ἐκ πάσης με χώρας ἐκβαλεῖν;

POVERTY You pair of luckless manikins who dare A rash, unholy, lawless deed to do— Where! What! Why flee ye? Tarry?

BLEPSIDEMUS Heracles!

POVERTY I’ll make you die a miserable death. For ye have dared a deed intolerable Which no one else has ever dared to do, Or God or man! Now therefore ye must die.

CHREMYLUS But who are you that look so pale and wan?

BLEPSIDEMUS Belike some Fury from a tragic play. She has a wild and tragic sort of look.

CHREMYLUS No, for she bears no torch.

BLEPSIDEMUS The worse for her.

POVERTY What do you take me for?

CHREMYLUS Some pot-house girl Or omelette-seller: else you would not bawl At us so loudly ere you’re harmed at all.

POVERTY Not harmed! Why, is it not a shameful thing That you should seek to drive me from the land?

Χρεμύλος 431οὔκουν ὑπόλοιπον τὸ βάραθρόν σοι γίγνεται; ἀλλʼ ἥτις εἶ λέγειν σʼ ἐχρῆν αὐτίκα μάλα. Πενία ἣ σφὼ ποιήσω τήμερον δοῦναι δίκην ἀνθʼ ὧν ἐμὲ ζητεῖτον ἐνθένδʼ ἀφανίσαι. Βλεψίδημος 435ἆρʼ ἐστὶν ἡ καπηλὶς ἡκ τῶν γειτόνων, ἣ ταῖς κοτύλαις ἀεί με διαλυμαίνεται; Πενία Πενία μὲν οὖν, ἣ σφῷν ξυνοικῶ πόλλʼ ἔτη. Βλεψίδημος ἄναξ Ἄπολλον καὶ θεοί, ποῖ τις φύγῃ; Χρεμύλος οὗτος τί δρᾷς; ὦ δειλότατον σὺ θηρίον· 440οὐ παραμενεῖς; Βλεψίδημος ἥκιστα πάντων. Χρεμύλος οὐ μενεῖς; ἀλλʼ ἄνδρε δύο γυναῖκα φεύγομεν μίαν; Βλεψίδημος Πενία γάρ ἐστιν ὦ πόνηρʼ, ἧς οὐδαμοῦ οὐδὲν πέφυκε ζῷον ἐξωλέστερον. Χρεμύλος στῆθʼ, ἀντιβολῶ σε, στῆθι. Βλεψίδημος μὰ Δίʼ ἐγὼ μὲν οὔ. Χρεμύλος 445καὶ μὴν λέγω, δεινότατον ἔργον παρὰ πολὺ ἔργων ἁπάντων ἐργασόμεθʼ, εἰ τὸν θεὸν ἔρημον ἀπολιπόντε ποι φευξούμεθα τηνδὶ δεδιότε, μηδὲ διαμαχούμεθα. Βλεψίδημος ποίοις ὅπλοισιν ἢ δυνάμει πεποιθότες; 450ποῖον γὰρ οὐ θώρακα, ποίαν δʼ ἀσπίδα οὐκ ἐνέχυρον τίθησιν ἡ μιαρωτάτη; Χρεμύλος θάρρει· μόνος γὰρ ὁ θεὸς οὗτος οἶδʼ ὅτι τροπαῖον ἂν στήσαιτο τῶν ταύτης τρόπων. Πενία γρύζειν δὲ καὶ τολμᾶτον ὦ καθάρματε, 455ἐπʼ αὐτοφώρῳ δεινὰ δρῶντʼ εἰλημμένω; Χρεμύλος σὺ δʼ ὦ κάκιστʼ ἀπολουμένη τί λοιδορεῖ

CHREMYLUS At all events you’ve got the Deadman’s Pit. But tell us quickly who and what you are.

POVERTY One who is going to pay you out to-day Because ye seek to banish me from hence.

BLEPSIDEMUS Is it the barmaid from the neighbouring tap Who always cheats me with her swindling pint-pots?

POVERTY It’s Poverty, your mate for many a year!

BLEPSIDEMUS O King Apollo and ye Gods, I’m off.

CHREMYLUS Hi! What are you at? Stop, stop, you coward you, Stop, can’t you?

BLEPSIDEMUS Anything but that.

CHREMYLUS Pray stop. What! shall one woman scare away two men?

BLEPSIDEMUS But this is Poverty herself, you rogue, The most destructive pest in all the world.

CHREMYLUS Stay, I implore you, stay.

BLEPSIDEMUS Not I, by Zeus.

CHREMYLUS Why, this, I tell you, were the cowardliest deed That ere was heard of, did we leave the God Deserted here, and flee away ourselves Too scared to strike one blow in his defence.

BLEPSIDEMUS O, on what arms, what force, can we rely? Is there a shield, a corslet, anywhere Which this vile creature has not put in pawn?

CHREMYLUS Courage! the God will, single-handed, rear A trophy o’er this atrophied assailant.

POVERTY What! dare you mutter, you two outcasts you, Caught in the act, doing such dreadful deeds?

CHREMYLUS O, you accursed jade, why come you here

Χρεμύλος 457ἡμῖν προσελθοῦσʼ οὐδʼ ὁτιοῦν ἀδικουμένη; Πενία οὐδὲν γὰρ ὦ πρὸς τῶν θεῶν νομίζετε ἀδικεῖν με τὸν Πλοῦτον ποιεῖν πειρωμένω 460βλέψαι πάλιν; Χρεμύλος τί οὖν ἀδικοῦμεν τοῦτό σε, εἰ πᾶσιν ἀνθρώποισιν ἐκπορίζομεν ἀγαθόν; Πενία τί δʼ ἂν ὑμεῖς ἀγαθὸν ἐξεύροιθʼ; Χρεμύλος ὅ τι; σὲ πρῶτον ἐκβαλόντες ἐκ τῆς Ἑλλάδος. Πενία ἔμʼ ἐκβαλόντες; καὶ τί ἂν νομίζετον 465κακὸν ἐργάσασθαι μεῖζον ἀνθρώπους; Χρεμύλος ὅ τι; εἰ τοῦτο δρᾶν μέλλοντες ἐπιλαθοίμεθα. Πενία καὶ μὴν περὶ τούτου σφῷν ἐθέλω δοῦναι λόγον τὸ πρῶτον αὐτοῦ· κἂν μὲν ἀποφήνω μόνην ἀγαθῶν ἁπάντων οὖσαν αἰτίαν ἐμὲ 470ὑμῖν διʼ ἐμέ τε ζῶντας ὑμᾶς· εἰ δὲ μή, ποιεῖτον ἤδη τοῦθʼ ὅ τι ἂν ὑμῖν δοκῇ. Χρεμύλος ταυτὶ σὺ τολμᾷς ὦ μιαρωτάτη λέγειν; Πενία καὶ σύ γε διδάσκου· πάνυ γὰρ οἶμαι ῥᾳδίως ἅπανθʼ ἁμαρτάνοντά σʼ ἀποδείξειν ἐγώ, 475εἰ τοὺς δικαίους φῂς ποιήσειν πλουσίους. Χρεμύλος ὦ τύμπανα καὶ κύφωνες οὐκ ἀρήξετε; Πενία οὐ δεῖ σχετλιάζειν καὶ βοᾶν πρὶν ἂν μάθῃς. Χρεμύλος καὶ τίς δύναιτʼ ἂν μὴ βοᾶν ἰοὺ ἰοὺ τοιαῦτʼ ἀκούων; Πενία ὅστις ἐστὶν εὖ φρονῶν. Χρεμύλος 480τί δῆτά σοι τίμημʼ ἐπιγράψω τῇ δίκῃ, ἐὰν ἁλῷς; Πενία ὅ τι σοι δοκεῖ. Χρεμύλος καλῶς λέγεις.

CHREMYLUS Abusing us? We never did you wrong.

POVERTY No wrong, forsooth! O by the heavenly Powers No wrong to me, your trying to restore Wealth’s sight again?

CHREMYLUS How can it injure you, If we are trying to confer a blessing On all mankind?

POVERTY Blessing! what blessing?

CHREMYLUS What? Expelling you from Hellas, first of all.

POVERTY Expelling me from Hellas! Could you do A greater injury to mankind than that?

CHREMYLUS A greater? Yes; by NOT expelling you.

POVERTY Now that’s a question I am quite prepared To argue out at once; and if I prove That I’m the source of every good to men, And that by me ye live—: but if I fail, Then do thereafter whatsoe’er ye list.

CHREMYLUS You dare to offer this, you vixen you?

POVERTY And you, accept it: easily enough Methinks I show you altogether wrong Making the good men rich, as you propose.

BLEPSIDEMUS O clubs and pillories! To the rescue! Help!

POVERTY Don’t shout and storm before you have heard the facts.

BLEPSIDEMUS Who can help shouting, when he hears such wild Extravagant notions?

POVERTY Any man of sense.

CHREMYLUS And what’s the penalty you’ll bear, in case You lose the day?

POVERTY Whate’er you please.

CHREMYLUS ’Tis well.

Πενία 482τὸ γὰρ αὔτʼ, ἐὰν ἡττᾶσθε, καὶ σφὼ δεῖ παθεῖν. Χρεμύλος ἱκανοὺς νομίζεις δῆτα θανάτους εἴκοσιν; Βλεψίδημος ταύτῃ γε· νῷν δὲ δὔ ἀποχρήσουσιν μόνω. Πενία 485οὐκ ἂν φθάνοιτον τοῦτο πράττοντʼ, ἢ τί γʼ ἂν ἔχοι τις ἂν δίκαιον ἀντειπεῖν ἔτι; Χορός ἀλλʼ ἤδη χρῆν τι λέγειν ὑμᾶς σοφὸν ᾧ νικήσετε τηνδὶ ἐν τοῖσι λόγοις ἀντιλέγοντες, μαλακὸν δʼ ἐνδώσετε μηδέν. Χρεμύλος φανερὸν μὲν ἔγωγʼ οἶμαι γνῶναι τοῦτʼ εἶναι πᾶσιν ὁμοίως, 490ὅτι τοὺς χρηστοὺς τῶν ἀνθρώπων εὖ πράττειν ἐστὶ δίκαιον, τοὺς δὲ πονηροὺς καὶ τοὺς ἀθέους τούτων τἀναντία δήπου. τοῦτʼ οὖν ἡμεῖς ἐπιθυμοῦντες μόλις ηὕρομεν, ὥστε γενέσθαι βούλευμα καλὸν καὶ γενναῖον καὶ χρήσιμον εἰς ἅπαν ἔργον. ἢν γὰρ ὁ Πλοῦτος νυνὶ βλέψῃ καὶ μὴ τυφλὸς ὢν περινοστῇ, 495ὡς τοὺς ἀγαθοὺς τῶν ἀνθρώπων βαδιεῖται κοὐκ ἀπολείψει, τοὺς δὲ πονηροὺς καὶ τοὺς ἀθέους φευξεῖται· κᾆτα ποιήσει πάντας χρηστοὺς καὶ πλουτοῦντας δήπου τά τε θεῖα σέβοντας. καίτοι τούτου τοῖς ἀνθρώποις τίς ἂν ἐξεύροι ποτʼ ἄμεινον; Βλεψίδημος οὐδείς· τούτου μάρτυς ἐγώ σοι· μηδὲν ταύτην γʼ ἀνερώτα. Χρεμύλος 500ὡς μὲν γὰρ νῦν ἡμῖν ὁ βίος τοῖς ἀνθρώποις διάκειται,

POVERTY But, if ye are worsted, ye must bear the same.

BLEPSIDEMUS (to Chr.) Think you that twenty deaths are fine enough?

CHREMYLUS Enough for her; but two will do for us.

POVERTY Well then, be quick about it; for, indeed, How can my statements be with truth gainsaid?

CHORUS Find something, I pray, philosophic to say, whereby you may vanquish and rout her. No thought of retreat; but her arguments meet with arguments stronger and stouter.

CHREMYLUS All people with me, I am sure, will agree, for to all men alike it is clear, That the honest and true should enjoy, as their due, a successful and happy career, Whilst the lot of the godless and wicked should fall in exactly the opposite sphere. ’Twas to compass this end that myself and my friend have been thinking as hard as we can, And have hit on a nice beneficial device, a truly magnificent plan. For if Wealth should attain to his eyesight again, nor amongst us so aimlessly roam, To the dwellings I know of the good he would go, nor ever depart from their home. The unjust and profane with disgust and disdain he is certain thereafter to shun, Till all shall be honest and wealthy at last, to virtue and opulence won. Is there any design more effective than mine a blessing on men to confer?

BLEPSIDEMUS No, nothing, that’s flat; I will answer for that; so don’t be inquiring of her.

CHREMYLUS For our life of to-day were a man to survey and consider its chances aright,

Χρεμύλος 501τίς ἂν οὐχ ἡγοῖτʼ εἶναι μανίαν κακοδαιμονίαν τʼ ἔτι μᾶλλον; πολλοὶ μὲν γὰρ τῶν ἀνθρώπων ὄντες πλουτοῦσι πονηροί, ἀδίκως αὐτὰ ξυλλεξάμενοι· πολλοὶ δʼ ὄντες πάνυ χρηστοὶ πράττουσι κακῶς καὶ πεινῶσιν μετὰ σοῦ τε τὰ πλεῖστα σύνεισιν. 505οὔκουν εἶναί φημʼ, εἰ παύσει ταύτην βλέψας ποθʼ ὁ Πλοῦτος, ὁδὸν ἥντινʼ ἰὼν τοῖς ἀνθρώποις ἀγάθʼ ἄν μείζω πορίσειεν. Πενία ἀλλʼ ὦ πάντων ῥᾷστʼ ἀνθρώπων ἀναπεισθέντʼ οὐχ ὑγιαίνειν δύο πρεσβύτα, ξυνθιασώτα τοῦ ληρεῖν καὶ παραπαίειν, εἰ τοῦτο γένοιθʼ ὃ ποθεῖθʼ ὑμεῖς, οὔ φημʼ ἂν λυσιτελεῖν σφῷν. 510εἰ γὰρ ὁ Πλοῦτος βλέψειε πάλιν διανείμειέν τʼ ἴσον αὑτόν, οὔτε τέχνην ἂν τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτʼ ἂν σοφίαν μελετῴη οὐδείς· ἀμφοῖν δʼ ὑμῖν τούτοιν ἀφανισθέντοιν ἐθελήσει τίς χαλκεύειν ἢ ναυπηγεῖν ἢ ῥάπτειν ἢ τροχοποιεῖν, ἢ σκυτοτομεῖν ἢ πλινθουργεῖν ἢ πλύνειν ἢ σκυλοδεψεῖν, 515ἢ γῆς ἀρότροις ῥήξας δάπεδον καρπὸν Δηοῦς θερίσασθαι, ἢν ἐξῇ ζῆν ἀργοῖς ὑμῖν πάντων ἀμελοῦσιν; Χρεμύλος λῆρον ληρεῖς. ταῦτα γὰρ ἡμῖν πάνθʼ ὅσα νῦν δὴ κατέλεξας

CHREMYLUS He might fancy, I ween, it were madness or e’en the sport of some mischievous sprite. So often the best of the world is possessed by the most undeserving of men, Who have gotten their pile of money by vile injustice; so often again The righteous are seen to be famished and lean, yea, with thee as their comrade to dwell. Now if Wealth were to-night to recover his sight, and her from amongst us expel, Can you tell me, I pray, a more excellent way of bestowing a boon on mankind?

POVERTY O men on the least provocation prepared to be crazy and out of your mind, Men bearded and old, yet companions enrolled in the Order of zanies and fools, O what is the gain that the world would obtain were it governed by you and your rules? Why, if Wealth should allot himself equally out (assume that his sight ye restore), Then none would to science his talents devote or practise a craft any more. Yet if science and art from the world should depart, pray whom would ye get for the future To build you a ship, or your leather to snip, or to make you a wheel or a suture? Do ye think that a man will be likely to tan, or a smithy or laundry to keep, Or to break up the soil with his ploughshare, and toil the fruits of Demeter to reap, If regardless of these he can dwell at his ease, a life without labour enjoying?

CHREMYLUS Absurd! why the troubles and tasks you describe we of course shall our servants employ in.

Χρεμύλος 518οἱ θεράποντες μοχθήσουσιν. Πενία πόθεν οὖν ἕξεις θεράποντας; Χρεμύλος ὠνησόμεθʼ ἀργυρίου δήπου. Πενία τίς δʼ ἔσται πρῶτον ὁ πωλῶν, 520ὅταν ἀργύριον κἀκεῖνος ἔχῃ; Χρεμύλος κερδαίνειν βουλόμενός τις ἔμπορος ἥκων ἐκ Θετταλίας παρὰ πλείστων ἀνδραποδιστῶν. Πενία ἀλλʼ οὐδʼ ἔσται πρῶτον ἁπάντων οὐδεὶς οὐδʼ ἀνδραποδιστὴς κατὰ τὸν λόγον ὃν σὺ λέγεις δήπου. τίς γὰρ πλουτῶν ἐθελήσει κινδυνεύων περὶ τῆς ψυχῆς τῆς αὑτοῦ τοῦτο ποιῆσαι; 525ὥστʼ αὐτὸς ἀροῦν ἐπαναγκασθεὶς καὶ σκάπτειν τἄλλα τε μοχθεῖν ὀδυνηρότερον τρίψεις βίοτον πολὺ τοῦ νῦν. Χρεμύλος ἐς κεφαλὴν σοί. Πενία ἔτι δʼ οὐχ ἕξεις οὔτʼ ἐν κλίνῃ καταδαρθεῖν, οὐ γὰρ ἔσονται, οὔτʼ ἐν δάπισιν· τίς γὰρ ὑφαίνειν ἐθελήσει χρυσίου ὄντος; οὔτε μύροισιν μυρίσαι στακτοῖς ὁπόταν νύμφην ἀγάγησθον. 530οὔθʼ ἱματίων βαπτῶν δαπάναις κοσμῆσαι ποικιλομόρφων. καίτοι τί πλέον πλουτεῖν ἐστιν τούτων πάντων ἀποροῦντας; παρʼ ἐμοῦ δʼ ἔστιν ταῦτʼ εὔπορα πάνθʼ ὑμῖν ὧν δείσθον· ἐγὼ γὰρ τὸν χειροτέχνην ὥσπερ δέσποινʼ ἐπαναγκάζουσα κάθημαι

POVERTY Your servants! But how will ye get any now? I pray you the secret to tell.

CHREMYLUS With the silver we’ve got we can purchase a lot,

POVERTY But who is the man that will sell?

CHREMYLUS Some merchant from Thessaly coming, belike, where most of the kidnappers dwell. Who still, for the sake of the gain he will make, with the slaves that we want will provide us.

POVERTY But first let me say, if we walk in the way wherein ye are seeking to guide us, There’ll be never a kidnapper left in the world. No merchant of course (can ye doubt it?) His life would expose to such perils as those had he plenty of money without it. No, no; I’m afraid you must handle the spade and follow the plough-tail in person, Your life will have double the toil and the trouble it used to.

CHREMYLUS Thyself be thy curse on!

POVERTY No more on a bed will you pillow your head, for there won’t be a bed in the land, Nor carpets; for whom will you find at the loom, when he’s plenty of money in hand? Rich perfumes no more will ye sprinkle and pour as home ye are bringing the bride, Or apparel the fair in habiliments rare so cunningly fashioned and dyed. Yet of little avail is your wealth if it fail such enjoyments as these to procure you. Ye fools, it is I who alone a supply of the goods which ye covet ensure you. I sit like a Mistress, by Poverty’s lash constraining the needy mechanic;

Πενία 534διὰ τὴν χρείαν καὶ τὴν πενίαν ζητεῖν ὁπόθεν βίον ἕξει. Χρεμύλος 535σὺ γὰρ ἂν πορίσαι τί δύναιʼ ἀγαθὸν φῴδων ἐκ βαλανείου καὶ παιδαρίων ὑποπεινώντων καὶ γραι·δίων κολοσυρτόν; φθειρῶν τʼ ἀριθμὸν καὶ κωνώπων καὶ ψυλλῶν οὐδὲ λέγω σοι ὑπὸ τοῦ πλήθους, αἳ βομβοῦσαι περὶ τὴν κεφαλὴν ἀνιῶσιν, ἐπεγείρουσαι καὶ φράζουσαι, πεινήσεις, ἀλλʼ ἐπανίστω. 540πρὸς δέ γε τούτοις ἀνθʼ ἱματίου μὲν ἔχειν ῥάκος· ἀντὶ δὲ κλίνης στιβάδα σχοίνων κόρεων μεστήν, ἣ τοὺς εὕδοντας ἐγείρει· καὶ φορμὸν ἔχειν ἀντὶ τάπητος σαπρόν· ἀντὶ δὲ προσκεφαλαίου λίθον ἐυμεγέθη πρὸς τῇ κεφαλῇ· σιτεῖσθαι δʼ ἀντὶ μὲν ἄρτων μαλάχης πτόρθους, ἀντὶ δὲ μάζης φυλλεῖʼ ἰσχνῶν ῥαφανίδων, 545ἀντὶ δὲ θράνους στάμνου κεφαλὴν κατεαγότος, ἀντὶ δὲ μάκτρας φιδάκνης πλευρὰν ἐρρωγυῖαν καὶ ταύτην. ἆρά γε πολλῶν ἀγαθῶν πᾶσιν τοῖς ἀνθρὠποις ἀποφαίνω σʼ αἴτιον οὖσαν; Πενία σὺ μὲν οὐ τὸν ἐμὸν βίον εἴρηκας, τὸν τῶν πτωχῶν δʼ ὑπεκρούσω. Χρεμύλος οὐκοῦν δήπου τῆς Πτωχείας Πενίαν φαμὲν εἶναι ἀδελφήν.

POVERTY When I raise it, to earn his living he’ll turn, and work in a terrible panic.

CHREMYLUS Why, what have you got to bestow but a lot of burns from the bathing-room station And a hollow-cheeked rabble of destitute hags, and brats on the verge of starvation? And the lice, if you please, and the gnats and the fleas whom I can’t even count for their numbers, Who around you all night will buzz and will bite, and arouse you betimes from your slumbers. Up! up! they will shrill, ’tis to hunger, but still up! up! to your pain and privation. For a robe but a rag, for a bed but a bag of rushes which harbour a nation Of bugs whose envenomed and tireless attacks would the soundest of sleepers awaken. And then for a carpet a sodden old mat, which is falling to bits, must be taken. And a jolly hard stone for a pillow you’ll own; and, for girdle-cakes barley and wheaten, Must leaves dry and lean of the radish or e’en sour stalks of the mallow be eaten. And the head of a barrel, stove in, for a chair; and, instead of a trough, for your kneading A stave of a vat you must borrow, and that all broken. So great and exceeding Are the blessings which Poverty brings in her train on the children of men to bestow!

POVERTY The life you define with such skill is not mine: ’tis the life of a beggar, I trow.

CHREMYLUS Well, Poverty, Beggary, truly the twain to be sisters we always declare.

Πενία 550ὑμεῖς γʼ οἵπερ καὶ Θρασυβούλῳ Διονύσιον εἶναι ὅμοιον. ἀλλʼ οὐχ οὑμὸς τοῦτο πέπονθεν βίος οὐ μὰ Δίʼ, οὐδέ γε μέλλει. πτωχοῦ μὲν γὰρ βίος, ὃν σὺ λέγεις, ζῆν ἐστιν μηδὲν ἔχοντα· τοῦ δὲ πένητος ζῆν φειδόμενον καὶ τοῖς ἔργοις προς έχοντα, περιγίγνεσθαι δʼ αὐτῷ μηδέν, μὴ μέντοι μηδʼ ἐπιλείπειν. Χρεμύλος 555ὡς μακαρίτην ὦ Δάματερ τὸν βίον αὐτοῦ κατέλεξας, εἰ φεισάμενος καὶ μοχθήσας καταλείψει μηδὲ ταφῆναι. Πενία σκώπτειν πειρᾷ καὶ κωμῳδεῖν τοῦ σπουδάζειν ἀμελήσας, οὐ γιγνώσκων ὅτι τοῦ Πλούτου παρέχω βελτίονας ἄνδρας καὶ τὴν γνώμην καὶ τὴν ἰδέαν. παρὰ τῷ μὲν γὰρ ποδαγρῶντες 560καὶ γαστρώδεις καὶ παχύκνημοι καὶ πίονές εἰσιν ἀσελγῶς, παρʼ ἐμοὶ δʼ ἰσχνοὶ καὶ σφηκώδεις καὶ τοῖς ἐχθροῖς ἀνιαροί. Χρεμύλος ἀπὸ τοῦ λιμοῦ γὰρ ἴσως αὐτοῖς τὸ σφηκῶδες σὺ πορίζεις. Πενία περὶ σωφροσύνης ἤδη τοίνυν περανῶ σφῷν κἀναδιδάξω ὅτι κοσμιότης οἰκεῖ μετʼ ἐμοῦ, τοῦ Πλούτου δʼ ἐστὶι ὑβρίζειν. Χρεμύλος 565πάνυ γοῦν κλέπτειν κόσμιόν ἐστιν καὶ τοὺς τοίχους διορύττειν.

POVERTY Aye you! who to good Thrasybulus forsooth Dionysius the Tyrant compare! But the life I allot to my people is not, nor shall be, so full of distresses. ’Tis a beggar alone who has nought of his own, nor even an obol possesses. My poor man, ’tis true, has to scrape and to screw and his work he must never be slack in; There’ll be no superfluity found in his cot; but then there will nothing be lacking.

CHREMYLUS Damater! a life of the Blessed you give: for ever to toil and to slave At Poverty’s call, and to leave after all not even enough for a grave.

POVERTY You are all for your jeers and your comedy-sneers, and you can’t be in earnest a minute Nor observe that alike in their bodily frame and the spirit residing within it. My people are better than Wealth’s; for by him, men bloated and gross are presented. Fat rogues with big bellies and dropsical legs, whose toes by the gout are tormented: But mine are the lean and the wasplike and keen, who strike at their foemen and sting them.

CHREMYLUS Ah, yes; to a wasplike condition, no doubt, by the pinch of starvation you bring them.

POVERTY I can show you besides that Decorum abides with those whom I visit; that mine Are the modest and orderly folk, and that Wealth’s are “with insolence flushed and with wine.”

CHREMYLUS ’Tis an orderly job, then, to thieve and to rob and to break into houses by night.

Βλεψίδημος 566†νὴ τὸν Δίʼ, εἰ δεῖ λαθεῖν αὐτόν, πῶς οὐχὶ κόσμιόν ἐστι;† Πενία σκέψαι τοίνυν ἐν ταῖς πόλεσιν τοὺς ῥήτορας, ὡς ὁπόταν μὲν ὦσι πένητες, περὶ τὸν δῆμον καὶ τὴν πόλιν εἰσὶ δίκαιοι, πλουτήσαντες δʼ ἀπὸ τῶν κοινῶν παραχρῆμʼ ἄδικοι γεγένηνται, 570ἐπιβουλεύουσί τε τῷ πλήθει καὶ τῷ δήμῳ πολεμοῦσιν. Χρεμύλος ἀλλʼ οὐ ψεύδει τούτων γʼ οὐδέν, καίπερ σφόδρα βάσκανος οὖσα. ἀτὰρ οὐχ ἧττόν γʼ οὐδὲν κλαύσει, μηδὲν ταύτῃ γε κομήσῃς, ὁτιὴ ζητεῖς τοῦτʼ ἀναπείθειν ἡμᾶς, ὡς ἔστιν ἄμεινον Πενία Πλούτου. Πενία καὶ σύ γʼ ἐλέγξαι μʼ οὔπω δύνασαι περὶ τούτου, 575ἀλλὰ φλυαρεῖς καὶ πτερυγίζεις. Χρεμύλος καὶ πῶς φεύγουσί σʼ ἅπαντες; Πενία ὅτι βελτίους αὐτοὺς ποιῶ. σκέψασθαι δʼ ἔστι μάλιστα ἀπὸ τῶν παίδων· τοὺς γὰρ πατέρας φεύγουσι φρονοῦντας ἄριστα αὐτοῖς. οὕτω διαγιγνώσκειν χαλεπὸν πρᾶγμʼ ἐστὶ δίκαιον. Χρεμύλος τὸν Δία φήσεις ἆρʼ οὐκ ὀρθῶς διαγιγνώσκειν τὸ κράτιστον· 580κἀκεῖνος γὰρ τὸν Πλοῦτον ἔχει. Βλεψίδημος ταύτην δʼ ἡμῖν ἀποπέμπει. Πενία ἀλλʼ ὦ Κρονικαῖς λήμαις ὄντως λημῶντες τὰς φρένας ἄμφω, ὁ Ζεὺς δήπου πένεται, καὶ τοῦτʼ ἤδη φανερῶς σε διδάξω.

BLEPSIDEMUS Such modesty too! In whatever they do they are careful to keep out of sight.

POVERTY Behold in the cities the Orator tribe; when poor in their early career How faithful and just to the popular trust, how true to the State they appear. When wealth at the City’s expense they have gained, they are worsened at once by the pelf, Intriguing the popular cause to defeat, attacking the People itself.

CHREMYLUS That is perfectly true though ’tis spoken by you, you spiteful malevolent witch! But still you shall squall for contending that all had better be poor than be rich. So don’t be elate; for a terrible fate shall your steps overtake before long—

POVERTY Why, I haven’t yet heard the ghost of a word to prove my contention is wrong. You splutter and try to flutter and fly: but of argument never a letter.

CHREMYLUS Pray why do all people abhor you and shun?

POVERTY Because I’m for making them better. So children, we see, from their parents will flee who would teach them the way they should go. So hardly we learn what is right to discern; so few what is best for them know.

CHREMYLUS Then Zeus, I suppose, is mistaken, nor knows what most for his comfort and bliss is, Since money and pelf he acquires for himself.

BLEPSIDEMUS And her to the earth he dismisses.

POVERTY O dullards and blind! full of styes is your mind; there are tumours titanic within it. Zeus wealthy! Not he: he’s as poor as can be: and this I can prove in a minute.

Πενία 583εἰ γὰρ ἐπλούτει, πῶς ἂν ποιῶν τὸν Ὀλυμπικὸν αὐτὸς ἀγῶνα ἵνα τοὺς Ἕλληνας ἅπαντας ἀεὶ διʼ ἔτους πέμπτου ξυναγείρει, 585ἀνεκήρυττεν τῶν ἀσκητῶν τοὺς νικῶντας στεφανώσας κοτίνου στεφάνῳ; καίτοι χρυσῷ μᾶλλον ἐχρῆν, εἴπερ ἐπλούτει. Χρεμύλος οὐκοῦν τούτῳ δήπου δηλοῖ τιμῶν τὸν Πλοῦτον ἐκεῖνος· φειδόμενος γὰρ καὶ βουλόμενος τούτου μηδὲν δαπανᾶσθαι, λήροις ἀναδῶν τοὺς νικῶντας τὸν Πλοῦτον ἐᾷ παρʼ ἑαυτῷ. Πενία 590πολὺ τῆς Πενίας πρᾶγμʼ αἴσχιον ζητεῖς αὐτῷ περιάψαι, εἰ πλούσιος ὢν ἀνελεύθερός ἐσθʼ οὑτωσὶ καὶ φιλοκερδής. Χρεμύλος ἀλλὰ σέ γʼ ὁ Ζεὺς ἐξολέσειεν κοτίνου στεφάνῳ στεφανώσας. Πενία τὸ γὰρ ἀντιλέγειν τολμᾶν ὑμᾶς ὡς οὐ πάντʼ ἔστʼ ἀγάθʼ ὑμῖν διὰ τὴν Πενίαν. Χρεμύλος παρὰ τῆς Ἑκάτης ἔξεστιν τοῦτο πυθέσθαι, 595εἴτε τὸ πλουτεῖν εἴτε τὸ πεινῆν βέλτιον. φησὶ γὰρ αὕτη τοὺς μὲν ἔχοντας καὶ πλουτοῦντας δεῖπνον κατὰ μῆνʼ ἀποπέμπειν, τοὺς δὲ πένητας τῶν ἀνθρώπων ἁρπάζειν πρὶν καταθεῖναι. ἀλλὰ φθείρου καὶ μὴ γρύξῃς

POVERTY If Zeus be so wealthy, how came it of yore that out of his riches abounding He could find but a wreath of wild olive for those who should win at the games he was founding, By all the Hellenes in each fourth year on Olympia’s plains to be holden? If Zeus were as wealthy and rich as you say, the wreath should at least have been golden.

CHREMYLUS It is plain, I should think, ’tis from love of the chink that the conduct you mention arises; The God is unwilling to lavish a doit of the money he loves upon prizes. The rubbish may go to the victors below; the gold he retains in his coffers.

POVERTY How dare you produce such a libel on Zeus, you couple of ignorant scoffers? ’Twere better, I’m sure, to be honest and poor, than rich and so stingy and screwing.

CHREMYLUS Zeus crown you, I pray, with the wild olive spray, and send you away to your ruin!

POVERTY To think that you dare to persist and declare that Poverty does not present you With all that is noblest and best in your lives! Will Hecate’s judgement content you? If you question her which are the better, the rich or the poor, she will say, I opine, Each month do the wealthy a supper provide, to be used in my service divine, But the poor lie in wait for a snatch at the plate, or ere it is placed on my shrine. So away, nor retort with a g-r-r, you degraded

Χρεμύλος 599ἔτι μηδʼ ὁτιοῦν. 600οὐ γὰρ πείσεις, οὐδʼ ἢν πείσῃς. Πενία ὦ πόλις Ἄργους, κλύεθʼ οἷα λέγει. Χρεμύλος Παύσωνα κάλει τὸν ξύσσιτον. Πενία τί πάθω τλήμων; Χρεμύλος ἔρρʼ ἐς κόρακας θᾶττον ἀφʼ ἡμῶν. Πενία 605εἶμι δὲ ποῖ γῆς; Χρεμύλος ἐς τὸν κύφωνʼ· ἀλλʼ οὐ μέλλειν χρῆν σʼ, ἀλλʼ ἀνύειν. Πενία ἦ μὴν ὑμεῖς γʼ ἔτι μʼ ἐνταυθοῖ μεταπέμψεσθον. Χρεμύλος 610τότε νοστήσεις· νῦν δὲ φθείρου. κρεῖττον γάρ μοι πλουτεῖν ἐστίν, σὲ δʼ ἐᾶν κλάειν μακρὰ τὴν κεφαλήν. Βλεψίδημος νὴ Δίʼ ἐγὼ γοῦν ἐθέλω πλουτῶν εὐωχεῖσθαι μετὰ τῶν παίδων 615τῆς τε γυναικός, καὶ λουσάμενος λιπαρὸς χωρῶν ἐκ βαλανείου τῶν χειροτεχνῶν καὶ τῆς Πενίας καταπαρδεῖν. Χρεμύλος αὕτη μὲν ἡμῖν ἡπίτριπτος οἴχεται. 620ἐγὼ δὲ καὶ σύ γʼ ὡς τάχιστα τὸν θεὸν ἐγκατακλινοῦντʼ ἄγωμεν εἰς Ἀσκληπιοῦ. Βλεψίδημος καὶ μὴ διατρίβωμέν γε, μὴ πάλιν τις αὖ ἐλθὼν διακωλύσῃ τι τῶν προὔργου ποιεῖν. Χρεμύλος παῖ Καρίων τὰ στρώματʼ ἐκφέρειν σʼ ἐχρῆν 625αὐτόν τʼ ἄγειν τὸν Πλοῦτον, ὡς νομίζεται, καὶ τἄλλʼ ὅσʼ ἐστὶν ἔνδον ηὐτρεπισμένα.

CHREMYLUS Importunate scold! Persuade me you may, but I won’t be persuaded.

POVERTY O Argos, behold!

CHREMYLUS Nay Pauson, your messmate, to aid you invite.

POVERTY O woe upon woe!

CHREMYLUS Be off to the ravens; get out of my sight.

POVERTY O where shall I go?

CHREMYLUS Go? Go to the pillory; don’t be so slack, Nor longer delay.

POVERTY Ah me, but ye’ll speedily send for me back, Who scout me to-day!

CHREMYLUS When we send for you, come; not before. So farewell! With Wealth as my comrade ’tis better to dwell. Get you gone, and bemoan your misfortunes alone.

BLEPSIDEMUS I too have a mind for an opulent life Of revel and mirth with my children and wife, Untroubled by Poverty’s panics. And then as I’m passing, all shiny and bright, From my bath to my supper, what joy and delight My fingers to snap in disdain at the sight Of herself and her frowsy mechanics.

CHREMYLUS That cursed witch, thank Heaven, has gone and left us. But you and I will take the God at once To spend the night inside Asclepius’ Temple.

BLEPSIDEMUS And don’t delay one instant, lest there come Some other hindrance to the work in hand.

CHREMYLUS Hi! boy there, Cario, fetch me out the blankets, And bring the God himself, with due observance, And whatsoever is prepared within.

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English translation by Benjamin Bickley Rogers (1924). Original text: Greek text: F. W. Hall and W. M. Geldart (eds.), Aristophanis Comoediae, Oxford Classical Texts, Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1906-1907, as digitised by Perseus. English: Benjamin Bickley Rogers, Aristophanes, vol. III, Loeb Classical Library, London: William Heinemann, and New York: G. P. Putnam's Sons, 1924.

Greek text and translation from the Perseus Digital Library, Tufts University, Greek: CC BY-SA 4.0 (Perseus Digital Library); translation public domain (Rogers). Introductions, summaries and notes © GreekMythology.com.

Plutus 415–626: Agon: Chremylus and Poverty debate wealth